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		<title>By: mj</title>
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		<dc:creator>mj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There&#039;s something about a mass-market Luxury Cruise that&#039;s unbearably sad. Like most unbear- ably sad things, it seems incredibly elusive and complex in its causes yet simple in its effect: on board the Nadir (especially at night, when all the ship&#039;s structured fun and reassurances and gaiety ceased) I felt despair. The word &quot;despair&quot; is overused and banalized now, but it&#039;s a serious word, and I&#039;m using it seriously. It&#039;s close to what people call dread or angst, but it&#039;s not these things, quite. It&#039;s more like wanting to die in order to escape the unbearable sadness of knowing I&#039;m small and weak and selfish and going, without doubt, to die. It&#039;s wanting to jump overboard.&quot;

http://harpers.org/archive/1996/01/0007859</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s something about a mass-market Luxury Cruise that&#8217;s unbearably sad. Like most unbear- ably sad things, it seems incredibly elusive and complex in its causes yet simple in its effect: on board the Nadir (especially at night, when all the ship&#8217;s structured fun and reassurances and gaiety ceased) I felt despair. The word &#8220;despair&#8221; is overused and banalized now, but it&#8217;s a serious word, and I&#8217;m using it seriously. It&#8217;s close to what people call dread or angst, but it&#8217;s not these things, quite. It&#8217;s more like wanting to die in order to escape the unbearable sadness of knowing I&#8217;m small and weak and selfish and going, without doubt, to die. It&#8217;s wanting to jump overboard.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: martinorbidans</title>
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		<dc:creator>martinorbidans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The timing is perfect for me to find this site. Thanks David.  MJ I agree....Been thru 3 years of playing/singing on ships. It`s now just a job with few benefits. Income over outgoings the good part. Now I am used to the daily grind. That is, the long lonely days punctuated by being on stage, which is when the lights come on for me. I am able to support my 2 daughters thru university. Thats the other main good point.

But it`s so hard to live with the petty complaints that come from some regular crew. Like being jealous of the fact that I can use all the facilities as a guest ent. Once you can use them you find you dont need to! But I have done crew and I nearly jumped overboard.

 If I was still in my 20`s I might cope with being in the crew. Poor food quality, drills, authoritarian legalists etc. (It`s ship and so it has to be run with precision I know but...) Anyway we are all supposed to be a team, right? Mmm.  I have been self employed most of my life apart from a spell in the Royal Marines which in fact was better. The military are much fairer than cruise ship crew. Anyway I am home in UK now on a 6 week gap between contracts and can see how paranoid I get at sea. After divorcing 4 years ago and being very depressed, sea life provided an easy life. Everything being done for me. But over drinking is easy at sea. Nothing to do during the very long days, that is unless you like going ashore and sitting on a beach or going round the Hermitage in St Petersburg yet again, looking at miserable people. OMG will I start to miss cruising soon?

The food as a guest ent is good. But 3 months of rich cuisine? And the formality of the dressing up, just to eat!

Hey there is the casual dining option but repeating menu`s! I sometimes do go ashore just for a big mac!

I spent many years thinking about cruising for a living one day. Now I do realise the freedoms we take for granted ashore. Its the money issue thats all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The timing is perfect for me to find this site. Thanks David.  MJ I agree&#8230;.Been thru 3 years of playing/singing on ships. It`s now just a job with few benefits. Income over outgoings the good part. Now I am used to the daily grind. That is, the long lonely days punctuated by being on stage, which is when the lights come on for me. I am able to support my 2 daughters thru university. Thats the other main good point.</p>
<p>But it`s so hard to live with the petty complaints that come from some regular crew. Like being jealous of the fact that I can use all the facilities as a guest ent. Once you can use them you find you dont need to! But I have done crew and I nearly jumped overboard.</p>
<p> If I was still in my 20`s I might cope with being in the crew. Poor food quality, drills, authoritarian legalists etc. (It`s ship and so it has to be run with precision I know but&#8230;) Anyway we are all supposed to be a team, right? Mmm.  I have been self employed most of my life apart from a spell in the Royal Marines which in fact was better. The military are much fairer than cruise ship crew. Anyway I am home in UK now on a 6 week gap between contracts and can see how paranoid I get at sea. After divorcing 4 years ago and being very depressed, sea life provided an easy life. Everything being done for me. But over drinking is easy at sea. Nothing to do during the very long days, that is unless you like going ashore and sitting on a beach or going round the Hermitage in St Petersburg yet again, looking at miserable people. OMG will I start to miss cruising soon?</p>
<p>The food as a guest ent is good. But 3 months of rich cuisine? And the formality of the dressing up, just to eat!</p>
<p>Hey there is the casual dining option but repeating menu`s! I sometimes do go ashore just for a big mac!</p>
<p>I spent many years thinking about cruising for a living one day. Now I do realise the freedoms we take for granted ashore. Its the money issue thats all.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been of the ship about two months now, and I know what you mean by lethargy.  It&#039;s such a relaxed life on the ship and when you get back on land you have to make everything happen for yourself.

I miss the beach and the breeze and the sound of the water, but that&#039;s about it.

I definitely do not miss the bad living conditions, lack of smoke-free socializing areas, horrible crew food (impossible to maintain a proper vegan diet on a ship, by the way...impossible), or authoritarian personalities (who tend to pick on the entertainment departments out of spite, in my experience).

Most of all, I don&#039;t miss the general sense of mediocrity.

It was cool to see so many awesome places, but I feel like life&#039;s too short to twiddle your thumbs for very long.  The ship always seemed to me like a boring safety net that had a few amazing benefits, but more costs overall.  

However, I would say that it&#039;s great for someone who doesn&#039;t necessarily want to build a career per se, or someone who is transitioning and/or doesn&#039;t know what to do next, as long as you&#039;re willing to make some serious sacrifices in your comfort and freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been of the ship about two months now, and I know what you mean by lethargy.  It&#8217;s such a relaxed life on the ship and when you get back on land you have to make everything happen for yourself.</p>
<p>I miss the beach and the breeze and the sound of the water, but that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>I definitely do not miss the bad living conditions, lack of smoke-free socializing areas, horrible crew food (impossible to maintain a proper vegan diet on a ship, by the way&#8230;impossible), or authoritarian personalities (who tend to pick on the entertainment departments out of spite, in my experience).</p>
<p>Most of all, I don&#8217;t miss the general sense of mediocrity.</p>
<p>It was cool to see so many awesome places, but I feel like life&#8217;s too short to twiddle your thumbs for very long.  The ship always seemed to me like a boring safety net that had a few amazing benefits, but more costs overall.  </p>
<p>However, I would say that it&#8217;s great for someone who doesn&#8217;t necessarily want to build a career per se, or someone who is transitioning and/or doesn&#8217;t know what to do next, as long as you&#8217;re willing to make some serious sacrifices in your comfort and freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colina Phillps,

You could possibly maintain a healthy diet, it all depends on the ship you are on and if you like salad without dressing.  When I was out there as a musician, we had &quot;staff&quot; status, meaning we could eat at the cafe which was open until 2 in the morning and served all sorts of food.  They had steaks, chicken, prime rib, potatoes, sushi, pizza, sweet and sour pork, rice, soup, and plenty of nasty desserts.  The only thing about the salads is that the dressings that they had were terrible after about a week.  So take your own dressing in a bottle, if you can sneak it past the guards...</description>
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<p>You could possibly maintain a healthy diet, it all depends on the ship you are on and if you like salad without dressing.  When I was out there as a musician, we had &#8220;staff&#8221; status, meaning we could eat at the cafe which was open until 2 in the morning and served all sorts of food.  They had steaks, chicken, prime rib, potatoes, sushi, pizza, sweet and sour pork, rice, soup, and plenty of nasty desserts.  The only thing about the salads is that the dressings that they had were terrible after about a week.  So take your own dressing in a bottle, if you can sneak it past the guards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Colina Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colina Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 00:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog.   About the food for crew and staff, I need to know what&#039;s so bad about it?   Would I be able to maintain my health eating salads and desserts?  What&#039;s on the menus.  There&#039;s got to be some good stuff.  Steak?     Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog.   About the food for crew and staff, I need to know what&#8217;s so bad about it?   Would I be able to maintain my health eating salads and desserts?  What&#8217;s on the menus.  There&#8217;s got to be some good stuff.  Steak?     Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: What Was There to Be Dark About?</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Was There to Be Dark About?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Dave March 26, 2008    I wanted to respond to a comment I received a few months ago on the Adjusting to Land After a Cruise Job post. My apologies to Michael for taking so long to get back to him. This is the comment: Dave, [...]</description>
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