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| October 11, 2010 at 1:55 pm #6751 | |
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jcmuzik |
<p>Hi folks, new member here, just want to hear your two cents if you will from real working musicians.</p> |
| October 15, 2010 at 9:31 pm #7374 | |
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Cameron Mizell |
You make a good point. Everything is crowded and noisy, and just adding to that mess isn't necessarily going to do you any good when trying to promote yourself. However, if you're doing it in a very targeted fashion, then it could pay off. Putting a poster in a venue where you'll be playing in a month can work, not necessarily by bringing more people to that show, but helping build up name recognition. For example, there are a lot of artists that I feel like I know just because I see their posters at a bunch of the places where I play, but I don't think I've ever met these people or heard them play. If I happened to be somewhere that they were playing, or a friend recommended them to me, I'd definitely check them out because the name recognition reinforces the recommendation, or convenience of listening to their set if I'm already at the club. I think the best way to promote yourself is to just be yourself, be a nice person, and let people know what you do. Don't force it on them, but if you think they'd be into your music, let them know. I've given my newest CD to one of my neighbors, the guy that cleans the trains at the subway station near my apartment, and some other random people I see all the time in my neighborhood. They see me with my guitar all the time, and when one of our conversations turn to the kind of music I play, I just hand them a CD. Most of them loved it, talk to me about it whenever they see me, tell me about the people they played it for, etc. I never asked them to buy it, but they know it's part of my livelihood and some pay for it after the fact, presumably because they now know exactly who and what they're supporting. I guess what I'm saying is you have to be able to get the people around you excited about your music first, and word will spread. |
| October 16, 2010 at 9:53 pm #7378 | |
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bilco |
I am a songwriter too, as well as a bass player. I have no trouble getting at least two gigs a week playing bass, but I am at a loss on how to promote myself as a songwriter. It has never payed particularly well to do solo gigs featuring original material. I use MySpace, built my own web site and I give CDs away to anyone remotely interested. I do get positive feedback, but I have not really figured out how to translate it to $ yet….. If you figure it out, let me know!! |
| October 19, 2010 at 3:47 pm #7380 | |
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jcmuzik |
Thanks Cameron for your input! Yes I think the idea is just to expand my real social network, in the literal sense (not just friend anyone on MySpace) with new friends and experienced songwriters. Also, my incentive to give dropcards for digital downloads of my music to strangers in the city during the holidays is back on my checklist! Well, I guess there just needs to be a balance of promoting your music (it can easily get out of hand) to the actually music making process. |
| April 20, 2011 at 12:31 am #7517 | |
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mojobone |
Despite everyone’s best efforts and a lot of wishful thinking, there’s still no substitute for actual physical shows and actual physical marketing. (as long as it’s targeted-there’s no point in papering windshields at the mall when you’re more emo than a Hot Topic cashier) Music “consumers” (I hate that word; what gets consumed, exactly?) are more savvy and guarded than ever before, and are more or less continually assaulted by people promoting crap twenty-four seven, especially if they’re online. Music fans believe that it costs nothing to record a song and that playing and singing requires no talent nor any effort whatsoever; after all, the marketers for computers, software and musical instruments told them so! Prevailing wisdom would have you chasing ‘influencers’ online, and I suppose there’s some merit in that, but smarter money is on finding something better than great and seducing, rather than bludgeoning your audience; speak softly, and carry a big stick as Teddy Roosevelt so famously put it. I used to sell vacuum cleaners door-to-door, and I can tell you that a truly great product practically sells itself, once you get it in front of a buyer. In today’s environment, the having a great product is the hardest part by far. |
| April 22, 2011 at 2:29 am #7530 | |
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Andree-Ann |
I’ll agree with Cam on that one – name recognition is definitely an influential tool. When I lived in Toronto, our group of students used to go see shows all the time and eventually, we realized that some posters we saw (in the bathrooms mostly!) were the same at every club we went to. Songwriters tend to gravitate in a circle of musicians and a circle of venues. I then realized one day at work (at a music school I was teaching at) that one of the substitute teacher that day was a girl who’s poster I saw many times around time – for some reason I felt that she was more credible in my eyes after simply recognizing her name. I really have nothing to say on the topic but I just wanted to agree with some of the great comments up there! |
| April 22, 2011 at 2:30 am #7531 | |
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Andree-Ann |
meant ‘around town’ not around time..geeesh. |
| July 4, 2011 at 3:53 am #7724 | |
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Jeff Sampson |
I’m with Cameron and MojoBone on this: be your (hopefully pleasant, sociable) self, and make great art. |
| July 21, 2011 at 1:05 pm #7749 | |
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Harry Schnur |
These are all very good points and the music model has certainly changed and it’s in transition-exciting times indeed! |
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