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| October 25, 2010 at 2:32 pm #6755 | |
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Andree-Ann |
<p>Hey folks, </p> |
| October 26, 2010 at 1:24 pm #7383 | |
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Joe Stone |
I recently had a bit of a discussion with another musician similar to this. She said that even though she's not into self-help books (and neither am I), she suggested Wayne Dyer's "Excuses Begone." I've only just started reading it, but I'm finding it making me aware of excuses we all make that keep us from getting what we want. In fact, "I'm too tired" is one of the excuses that he mentions in his list of excuses. I'm finding that just realizing this is a big step forward for me, and I haven't even gotten to the part about how to make the excuses begone. More specifically to practicing, I've been studying with a teacher since last November, and this is the first time I've had tons of time available to practice. I've never in my life done a practice session on my own for more than an hour. What I've been generally doing now is 20-30 minute sessions. One will usually be warming up, stretches and technique stuff, then a break, then theory kinds of stuff, break, etc. I feel like having the shorter sessions and the breaks gives the material time to soak in and perhaps my hands to rest a little if I'm pushing them. Overall, the lessons also keep me motivated because you never want to go to a lesson and say you've done nothing! I also try to do some fun stuff such as improvising on songs but I've been slacking on that part lately. |
| November 3, 2010 at 12:59 am #7389 | |
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Andree-Ann |
I honestly doubt that theres only two people in the whole forum with that problem… Share your experience and thoughts! |
| November 10, 2010 at 11:27 pm #7393 | |
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brian |
Hey there Andree. Sorry to everybody for being away from the forum for a bit. Life's been…interesting. I have particularly strong feelings about this concept. I can't say for sure but I feel that there is a definite syndrome (or however you want to classify it) for music majors right out of school. I graduated in 2005, took a year of (mostly just being lazy and recovering) then tried my hand at grad school, doing very poorly. I experienced a major musical slump after coming out of school. And I've seen it in several of my music major friends. We run the risk of becoming burned out on music after all that intensity. I spent a long time not even touching my keyboard in my room (I'm talking like, the better part of a year with only a few exceptions). This all made me very depressed. Eventually I discovered that I needed to fall in love with music again. If I loved music the way I tell myself I do, then coming to the piano to play shouldn't be a problem. It was especially important for me as I consider myself something of an aspiring composer. I'm doing much better these days and finding exciting ways to live as a working musician. I suppose that you would have to go on something of a soul searching journey if it's that bad. That's what I did. But things are far better for me since I have. Once you feel better about coming to the piano, then you have to find the balance; music and practice isn't supposed to be all fun and games, but you don't want it to become a chore. I suppose the first helpful thing I can say is that you're not alone in feeling that way. I think a lot of university-trained musicians feel that way. |
| April 20, 2011 at 1:10 am #7518 | |
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mojobone |
First thing; it’s not uncommon to feel as you do, coming out of school.When I returned to public school after a year at (private, military) boarding school, I promptly quit band, as I had no further desire for marching. I thank the gods I didn’t quit music, as I currently make what I jokingly refer to as a full-time living, making music.(and every now and again, eccch, teaching it; gods love the poor teachers) It’s more than okay to take a little self-time to re-assess your motivations and career direction, particularly in the current [i]interesting[/i] music job market, but if your situation doesn’t change in the next six months or so, it’s possible that music doesn’t need you as much as you need music, and you should become a fan.(music needs fans, now, more than ever) I’m not dismissing/denigrating your talent, but if your [i]desire[/i] isn’t up to the task of banishing the day gig, other arrangements must be made. Just a suggestion, made in all kindness, as I’ve worked some shite jobs to keep body and soul together, myself, and I hope your path ain’t as hard as mine. Good luck. |
| April 22, 2011 at 2:20 am #7529 | |
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Andree-Ann |
While I do appreciate your input on the previous situation, I think it’s a bit harsh to jump to the conclusion that post-graduation laziness is a sign that perhaps I need to re-evaluate my career goals. I know I am not the only one to be frustrated and exhausted after studying for a few years in a stressful learning environment and I was just wondering how other ex-students coped with it at the time. I have since gone back to my many hours a day practice routine and while I am not gigging much as of now, I’m back into shape at least. I’d like to thank Joe and Brian – good comments from you guys! |
| May 8, 2011 at 12:59 pm #7565 | |
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Derek |
Andree-Ann, I think it is normal to be tired from working your job/s because unfortunately, life gets in the way sometimes. What I have found to be helpful is “necessity” and “lack of” something. I will explain. Most people do things or create/invent things due to a “need” to solve a problem or to make something better. Not only in the area of playing music. For example, 1) you need to eat. Therefore, you work a job that you really dont want to do, in order to provide your necessity. 2) When you lack having a job, you have more time and, especially nowadays, we have to be more creative as to how we provide for ourselves. My point is, when you lack what you need, you will find ways to provide it. I would suggest find a group or a music job where you absolutely have to stay practiced up in order to keep the job. Again, you “need” to keep the job, therefore you will force yourself to practice more in order to keep it. Not to suggest putting yourself in a position where you are overwhelmed and ultimately fail, but look at it as any other job. If you have a base income job,in the field of technology, you tend to stay “practiced up,” on the latest gadgets/versions of operating systems/smart phones, etc. Do the same with a music job. For every need, there is an opportunity to create a solution. :) |
| May 9, 2011 at 11:17 pm #7571 | |
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Wedding Pianist |
I totally relate to the experience you describe. It’s a nightmare. The following has helped me get round this: - NEVER punish yourself for past laziness – always think positively about what you can do today or tomorrow rather than feeling guilty about what you could have done yesterday but didn’t. - Just do what you can do – if you don’t feel like practicing, there’s no sense in forcing it. Just do some scales or a bit of bach if that’s all you can do, anything to keep your fingers moving. - Sometimes, just sitting at the piano and playing can lead to hours of practice – the amount of times I’ve spent hours thinking about practicing, then when I finally sit down and start, I then find it very difficult to stop. - Go out to free gigs for inspiration - By far the best solution is to get paid work playing. (Easier said than done, I know) - The most important thing is to stay happy – musicians are always vulnerable to depression. Fighting this depression rather than succombing to it, or even worse, indulging in it, is the key to making music. - Be patient with yourself ! Hope this helps and I wish you all the very best. |
| May 11, 2011 at 3:39 pm #7595 | |
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Nick Rosaci |
Some suggestions from my experiences: Practice something with a hard goal. When I think to myself “I’m going to get that three bar passage in the Bach gigue today,” I work toward it. It sounded like crap before, when I would run through the whole movement over and over again, thinking my ability just isn’t there, but when I work on three bars, I get closer each time I run it. And closer. Before I know it, I’ve killed three hours, and I need to stop due to another engagement. But during that time, my horn is calling me back. The more time you take off, the less the desire to be will be there. I heard a saying once: Music is a jealous mistress. The more you put into her, the more she wants you around. It’s so true. Go to jam sessions. Get familiar with the regulars, then they will push you to be there, and be excited when you show up. As a bass player, I love it when other bassists show up and give me a break. Don’t just go to “free gigs.” I know you’re saving money, but I found a way into a Kenny Garrett concert once that was less-than-honest because I was broke. Not that I’m telling you to sneak into concerts, but what I’m saying is do whatever it takes to hear the pros. Garrett, Marcus Miller, Janos Starker, Keith Jarrett, Yo-Yo Ma, whomever. If it’s a top-notch musician in any circle, you owe it to your musicianship to check them out. Keep an eye on local performing arts halls and see who’s going to show up. That’s why college was so great; they would bring guys like that in all the time. But the bottom line is this: you go home wanting to practice. If nothing else, you probably heard a line at the concert that you would love to play on your own instrument. Don’t make the mistake of staying with performers on the same instrument you play. You’ll learn more by branching out into other genres and instruments. When I was in college and having a hard time putting the effort in my teacher was asking for, I started by just reading music down for about a week. It wasn’t the best performance of any piece, but just playing those melodies got me interested. Then, when I figured I couldn’t play anything that would bore me just due to the excitement of playing, I started my daily routines. And now I’m feeling guilty by posting here rather than shedding. Time to do so. |
| May 15, 2011 at 5:15 pm #7619 | |
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Cameron Mizell |
You know, sometimes taking some time off from music is actually good for your musicianship. Every other person I know takes vacations, why can’t we? After I left college, there were a few times where I hardly played for a week or more. Every time I returned to the guitar I felt like I’d gotten out of a rut, especially right after college when my goals had been rather narrow. I remember feeling like I’d finally absorbed everything I’d learned and could now forget about it and just make music. Once you start getting more and more work, your practice time will be dominated by learning material for the next gig. Practicing becomes the actual job. I also gave myself a “default” for practicing. If I’m not feeling very motivated to work on whatever I should be working on, or can’t decide what to work on, I learn a Beatles tune. I learn as many parts as I can, on different instruments, try it in different keys, etc. There’s a wealth of knowledge in each song, and it never hurts to know more Beatles songs! |
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