Comments on: Learning From Our Past http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/learning-from-our-past/ The Community for Working Musicians Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:30:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Musician History: Court Musicians - Musician Wages.com http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/learning-from-our-past/comment-page-1/#comment-3070 Musician History: Court Musicians - Musician Wages.com Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:26:57 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=3368#comment-3070 [...] Musician History: Court Musicians By David J. Hahn New York, NY This article is part of a series on musician history. See also, Learning From Our Past. [...] [...] Musician History: Court Musicians By David J. Hahn New York, NY This article is part of a series on musician history. See also, Learning From Our Past. [...]

]]> By: Wicked D http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/learning-from-our-past/comment-page-1/#comment-3032 Wicked D Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:15:26 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=3368#comment-3032 Amen, David. Great to see that I am not alone in the fact that “Professional musician” was not a career created by record labels and recording gear. I was fortunate enough to tour Asia with a Japanese/American metal band called Tyger Lilly for the better part of the 80s. We never cut an album, never approached a label with a demo (they were used for club bookers & loyal fans). However, we did tour extensively. We created a huge professional network and fan base (and reputation) by not just building contact lists, but by cultivating relationships. The result, plenty of paying gigs and merch sales. Upon my return to The States in 1990, I was able to duplicate that success (to a lesser extent) for the next decade or so. At least not having to depend on a full time day job! I now attempt to pass on some of my experiences through my blog, hoping to put some of the younger musicians into the right mindset. Amen, David. Great to see that I am not alone in the fact that “Professional musician” was not a career created by record labels and recording gear.

I was fortunate enough to tour Asia with a Japanese/American metal band called Tyger Lilly for the better part of the 80s. We never cut an album, never approached a label with a demo (they were used for club bookers & loyal fans). However, we did tour extensively. We created a huge professional network and fan base (and reputation) by not just building contact lists, but by cultivating relationships. The result, plenty of paying gigs and merch sales.

Upon my return to The States in 1990, I was able to duplicate that success (to a lesser extent) for the next decade or so. At least not having to depend on a full time day job! I now attempt to pass on some of my experiences through my blog, hoping to put some of the younger musicians into the right mindset.

]]> By: Chris http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/learning-from-our-past/comment-page-1/#comment-3027 Chris Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:24:03 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=3368#comment-3027 I think this is a great topic, David. It's apparent that, with the ever changing world of live and recorded music, we need to learn to think outside the box if we have any chance at staying afloat. I really look forward to what you find. I think this is a great topic, David. It’s apparent that, with the ever changing world of live and recorded music, we need to learn to think outside the box if we have any chance at staying afloat. I really look forward to what you find.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/learning-from-our-past/comment-page-1/#comment-3020 Gabe Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:48:21 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=3368#comment-3020 A friend recently shared this video with me and I think you and others interested in this topic will enjoy: "Before The Music Dies". It is a great documentary about the music industry and how it has changed (for better or worse) over the years- http://www.beforethemusicdies.com/ I am also interested in reading about what you find! Thanks for your work! A friend recently shared this video with me and I think you and others interested in this topic will enjoy: “Before The Music Dies”. It is a great documentary about the music industry and how it has changed (for better or worse) over the years- http://www.beforethemusicdies.com/

I am also interested in reading about what you find!

Thanks for your work!

]]> By: Adrian Ellis http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/learning-from-our-past/comment-page-1/#comment-2997 Adrian Ellis Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:13:47 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=3368#comment-2997 Very interesting thoughts, a compelling subject. I'm very much looking forward to hearing of your findings! Another aspect to consider - the idea that scarce resources (oil/carbon fuels)and environmental ballast put a serious damper on extensive touring, music performance becomes a localized/community thing once again. What kind of income did musicians earn from touring in the pre-industrialized world? Did Paganini have a merch table? Very interesting thoughts, a compelling subject. I’m very much looking forward to hearing of your findings!

Another aspect to consider – the idea that scarce resources (oil/carbon fuels)and environmental ballast put a serious damper on extensive touring, music performance becomes a localized/community thing once again.

What kind of income did musicians earn from touring in the pre-industrialized world?

Did Paganini have a merch table?

]]> By: bilco http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/learning-from-our-past/comment-page-1/#comment-2994 bilco Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:23:25 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=3368#comment-2994 Thanks David, I am looking forward to seeing what you find. My grandfather was a part time musician, wish he were around to talk about where he played. Thanks David, I am looking forward to seeing what you find. My grandfather was a part time musician, wish he were around to talk about where he played.

]]> By: Luis http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/learning-from-our-past/comment-page-1/#comment-2990 Luis Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:13:49 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=3368#comment-2990 Enticing. Can't wait to hear more. Enticing. Can’t wait to hear more.

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