Comments on: Should You Join the Musicians’ Union? http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/ The Community for Working Musicians Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:18:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nick Rosaci http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-16586 Nick Rosaci Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:52:01 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-16586 Cam, I think that is the best citation I've ever read. Cam, I think that is the best citation I’ve ever read.

]]> By: David J. Hahn http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-16585 David J. Hahn Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:21:19 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-16585 I called the Local 802 and interviewed the higher-ups. And I'm in the union. I would say either cite me and this article or find some way to cross check the facts yourself. Call the 802 if you want. I called the Local 802 and interviewed the higher-ups. And I’m in the union. I would say either cite me and this article or find some way to cross check the facts yourself. Call the 802 if you want.

]]> By: Cameron Mizell http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-16584 Cameron Mizell Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:12:15 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-16584 The author is a member of the local AFM chapter, and also a stand up chap that does his research. Not sure how you'd cite that. The author is a member of the local AFM chapter, and also a stand up chap that does his research. Not sure how you’d cite that.

]]> By: Tired Guy Writing A Term Paper http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-16583 Tired Guy Writing A Term Paper Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:35:43 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-16583 Hey, I would love to use some of the stuff you have up here in a paper I'm writing, but I don't know if everything you're saying is credible, since you cite no sources or references. I'm sure a lot of the stuff you say is correct, since I scoured the AFM's website looking for statistics and they have yet to be found. I just need to know how you know, haha. Hey, I would love to use some of the stuff you have up here in a paper I’m writing, but I don’t know if everything you’re saying is credible, since you cite no sources or references. I’m sure a lot of the stuff you say is correct, since I scoured the AFM’s website looking for statistics and they have yet to be found. I just need to know how you know, haha.

]]> By: Dale Partain http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-14798 Dale Partain Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:33:35 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-14798 I'm a bassest looking for work...i've played for over 25yrs. now...i can travel and have all new gear..5string schecter guitar and a fender rumble 100....ready to travel.. I’m a bassest looking for work…i’ve played for over 25yrs. now…i can travel and have all new gear..5string schecter guitar and a fender rumble 100….ready to travel..

]]> By: dds http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-12599 dds Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:35:54 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-12599 I wanted to make clear that I as a musician and as a business woman totally agree with timbo anti-castro. I wanted to make clear that I as a musician and as a business woman totally agree with timbo anti-castro.

]]> By: dds http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-12597 dds Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:34:16 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-12597 the core problem is that most musicians practice only to become brilliant as musicians, not also as business people. The most heard response to becoming business savvy is "if I dedicate my time to become business savvy, I will not be able to practice at that time." The truth is - these are only excuses. A union might make sense, but not for a musician who is a operates in his/her musical activity from a business perspective. There are no unions for business people. The difference in this whole thing is who do you perceive you are - an employee/self-employed or a business owner. And yeah - I am a working musician. And since I operate through a business perspective I would loose my dignity in my own eyes if I'd join it. the core problem is that most musicians practice only to become brilliant as musicians, not also as business people. The most heard response to becoming business savvy is “if I dedicate my time to become business savvy, I will not be able to practice at that time.” The truth is – these are only excuses.
A union might make sense, but not for a musician who is a operates in his/her musical activity from a business perspective. There are no unions for business people. The difference in this whole thing is who do you perceive you are – an employee/self-employed or a business owner.
And yeah – I am a working musician. And since I operate through a business perspective I would loose my dignity in my own eyes if I’d join it.

]]> By: dds http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-12594 dds Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:12:31 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-12594 totally agree. AND - I am a professional musician playing paid gigs since I was in middle school from clubs to concert halls to weddings to corporate gigs as a front-woman and as a side-woman and got paid always. totally agree. AND – I am a professional musician playing paid gigs since I was in middle school from clubs to concert halls to weddings to corporate gigs as a front-woman and as a side-woman and got paid always.

]]> By: jim graham http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-11326 jim graham Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:48:57 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-11326 I feel Unions have brought a lot of sanity to the American workforce. I would certainly welcome joining a musicians union if it meant actually getting paid for my passion. So if Jackson Browne ever calls me, I'd join the Union in a tick, but until then... I feel Unions have brought a lot of sanity to the American workforce. I would certainly welcome joining a musicians union if it meant actually getting paid for my passion. So if Jackson Browne ever calls me, I’d join the Union in a tick, but until then…

]]> By: Cameron Mizell http://www.musicianwages.com/the-working-musician/should-you-join-the-musicians-union/comment-page-1/#comment-11325 Cameron Mizell Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:16:30 +0000 http://www.musicianwages.com/?p=1456#comment-11325 Are you a musician or just somebody that likes to troll around the internet insulting people? This article isn't about whether unions are good or bad, but to inform our readers as to why the musician's union exists and whether or not it's required to join to work as a musician. Myself and the musicians I know (some are union, many are not) work hard, make a decent living, and love our jobs. Nobody is feeling sorry for themselves or regretting decisions. Maybe you just need to meet some real musicians? Are you a musician or just somebody that likes to troll around the internet insulting people?

This article isn’t about whether unions are good or bad, but to inform our readers as to why the musician’s union exists and whether or not it’s required to join to work as a musician.

Myself and the musicians I know (some are union, many are not) work hard, make a decent living, and love our jobs. Nobody is feeling sorry for themselves or regretting decisions. Maybe you just need to meet some real musicians?

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